WebRTC: Jennins (cisco) a Kaufman(Skype,Microsoft)

Hay cierta tension en el grupo de trabajo de WebRTC porque un miembro del grupo (empleado de Skype/Microsoft ) , coincidentemente con un buen ritmo de trabajo y proximas implementaciones de WebRTC, envio al grupo una especificacion que "reemplaza" a la actual especificacion en la que estuvieron tabajando durante todo el a#o !
Sin pelos en la lengua, el chair de RTCWeb en la IETF, Cullen Jennings ( empleado de Cisco ) le dijo lo siguiente a Matthew Kaufman (empleado de Skype/Microsoft):

"""
From: Cullen Jennings (fluffy)  
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 15:02:59 +0000
To: Matthew Kaufman  
CC: Stefan Hakansson LK , "public-webrtc@w3.org"  

[...]
As usually, my belief is that Microsoft has a huge financial incentive to create as much delay as possible on all the WebRTC work.
"""

Durisimo!

Hickson - Fielding vis a vis

Que grande este Ian Hickson, tiene la paciencia para discutir tranquila
y logicamente aun cuando lo "bardean" ... en este caso ni mas ni menos
que el "creador" de REST: Roy T. Fielding

From: Ian Hickson
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:10:41 +0000 (UTC)
To: "Roy T. Fielding"
Cc: HTML WG
Message-ID:

[...]

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> Because not a single expert in the Web standards community that I have
> talked to in the past two years has supported the current work in HTML5.
> The single most common reaction to the features that you have wedged
> into HTML5 is abject laughter and disdain for this process.

Hm, this is in stark contrast to the feedback I have received (from
literally hundreds of people).

It is obviously of critical importance to me that HTML5 addresses the
needs of the wide Web community. Clearly, we have received different
feedback from different parts of this community. I would like to receive
feedback from the the people to which you have been talking. Would it be
possible for you to point me in the right direction to obtain this feedback?
Are there mailing lists where it would be appropriate to request
constructive feedback from these people?

Do you have any suggestions for how we could obtain a representative
sample of people to determine once and for all what fraction of experts in
the Web standards community are in favour of the current direction of
HTML5 and what fraction are opposed to it?

(http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Nov/0233.html)

Leyeron el ultimo parrafo? ,,, un maestro :-))

Point break?

Introducing WebM, an open web media project

WebM includes:

* VP8, a high-quality video codec we are releasing today under a BSD-style, royalty-free license
* Vorbis, an already open source and broadly implemented audio codec
* a container format based on a subset of the Matroska media container

We want to thank the many industry leaders and web community members who are collaborating on the development of WebM and integrating it into their products [: Mozilla, Opera, Google Chrome, Adobe, and many others

[Jeremy Doig, Engineering Director of video and Mike Jazayeri, Group Product Manager, Google ]

http://webmproject.blogspot.com/2010/05/introducing-webm-open-web-media-project.html

Update 20/05/2010: no todo parecen ser flores: por ejemplo este analisis tecnico de VP8.

Mas sobre Flash y la Web

Interesante opinion de Ben Ward, a la cual llegue desde Tim Bray, a quien llegue desde Slashdot:

"The web is about content. Everything above that is dressing (perhaps think of the web as fresh bread, perfectly coated in balsamic vinegar and olive oil). The fact that older browsers cannot render all the features of your page but can still provide the content to users is a feature. It’s the most important feature.

The Flash philosophy is opposite. Flash is about a complete experience (singular). It’s about every detail being precisely bevelled into place for every viewer. The consequence of this approach is that it resists the availability of content. The goal of perfect consistent rendering can only be achieved through a single version of this single vendor’s bespoke plug-in. If you need a feature of Flash 10, Flash 9 users must upgrade to see any of your content, not just the new feature.

The Flash approach is anti-content; anti-web. Adobe present the idea that Flash is a superior offering because the entire suite of features, in one big blob, is a compelling development offering. But the reason to write on the web in the first place is to make content available broadly."

( http://benward.me/blog/flash-and-html5 )

Upa ! ( sobre HTML5 )

Ian Hickson ( editor de la especificacion de la nueva web :-) dixit:

"This (that people can arbitrarily delay work by disagreeing even when
their arguments are weak) is the biggest difference between decisions
based on opinions (the way the W3C operates), and decisions based on data
and reasoning (the way the WHATWG operates), and is the main reason that
the W3C tends to progress significantly slower than the HTML5 work has
been progressing these past few years."

Palazo para W3C :-))

P.S.: dias despues efectivamente HTML5 paso a estado "Last call for comments" en el WHATWG, mientras que en el W3C todavia no hay un panorama incierto sobre como sigue la cosa. Vamos W3C!! que la web esta esperando !!!